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Template talk:R from initialism §Proposed merge from {{R from an incomplete name}}

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus(talk) 20:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply



Template:R from an incomplete nameTemplate:Noredirect — to conform with every other redirect template. McLerristarr / Mclay1 05:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge/Redirect proposal

This template, R from incomplete name, should be merged with the template R from short name and made into a redirect to it (Rcat), due to the great similarity between the two in meaning. Either of these templates could easily be mistaken or misinterpreted for the other, as they are so nearly identical in both purpose and meaning, and therefore the two should not exist as completely separate redirect templates. Since this template is a subcategory of R from short name, the redirect should be from here to the latter. — |J~Pæst| 00:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

As I understand it, This page is being depreciated is used when the name is officially considered incomplete (but not outright incorrect) despite being sufficient to unambiguously identify the subject. This page is being depreciated is when the short name has some official approval. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 00:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
To |J~Pæst| & SoledadKabocha: I have been wondering the same as you, JPæst, because as I look at the entries in the two cats, it seems as though most editors don't know the difference. The same goes for {{R from shortening}} and its cat. SoledadKabocha, the difference you cite seems to be too subtle for most editors to discern. If I may, I suggest that all three be combined to {{R from short name}} and its cat. This would eliminate the anomaly you cite below, as well. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 09:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
I am neutral as to any merge. But I realize that I may have been a little sloppy in explaining originally. From what I understand of the fact that "incomplete" categorizes as unprintworthy while "short" does not, the distinction is primarily of whether the short name follows the usual printworthiness guidelines. I assume that a merged template would require users to manually specify "r printworthy" or "r unprintworthy" to make any claims of (un)printworthiness? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 17:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's a correct assumption – at this point I see no reason why a default printworthiness is needed. Thank you! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 09:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm restoring this template, and strongly recommend keeping these cases distinct, as per SoledadKabocha. While short names may be printworthy or not, these ones clearly aren't. More importantly, while links to a proper short name may be kept, these ones should be replaced by the correct, full name. I came here, quite irritated to see This page is being depreciated being redirected to This page is being depreciated. Don't know if everybody understands the difference, but if not, this might be, because we didn't explain it well enough. Similar templates are often listed and the difference explained on the transcluded template, and there's no reason why we can't do the same here. If some still don't get the the difference, this is no major problem, and in fact it's better to have 50% of these redirects correctly categorized, than none. --PanchoS (talk) 15:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Unprintworthy or not

The template categorizes articlespace redirects as unprintworthy. However, the displayed instructions say "It is not necessary to replace links to this redirect with piped links." Are these contradictory, and what should be done if so? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

State State

United States [[State State]] redirects and their targets
Flag and name Redirect Target
Template:Flaglist Alabama State Alabama State University
Template:Flaglist Alaska State Alaska
Template:Flaglist Arizona State Arizona State University
Template:Flaglist Arkansas State Arkansas State University
Template:Flaglist California State California State University
Template:Flaglist Colorado State Colorado State University
Template:Flaglist Connecticut State
Template:Flaglist Delaware State Delaware State University
Template:Flaglist Florida State Florida State University
Template:Flaglist Georgia State Georgia State University
Template:Flaglist Hawaii State Hawaii
Template:Flaglist Idaho State Idaho State University
Template:Flaglist Illinois State Illinois State University
Template:Flaglist Indiana State Indiana State University
Template:Flaglist Iowa State Iowa State University
Template:Flaglist Kansas State Kansas State University
Template:Flaglist Kentucky State Kentucky State University
Template:Flaglist Louisiana State Louisiana State University
Template:Flaglist Maine State
Template:Flaglist Maryland State Maryland
Template:Flaglist Massachusetts State
Template:Flaglist Michigan State Michigan State University
Template:Flaglist Minnesota State Minnesota State University, Mankato
Template:Flaglist Mississippi State Mississippi State University
Template:Flaglist Missouri State Missouri State University
Template:Flaglist Montana State Montana State University
Template:Flaglist Nebraska State Nebraska
Template:Flaglist Nevada State Nevada State University
Template:Flaglist New Hampshire State New Hampshire
Template:Flaglist New Jersey State New Jersey
Template:Flaglist New Mexico State New Mexico State University
Template:Flaglist New York State New York (state)
Template:Flaglist North Carolina State North Carolina State University
Template:Flaglist North Dakota State North Dakota State University
Template:Flaglist Ohio State Ohio State University
Template:Flaglist Oklahoma State Oklahoma State University
Template:Flaglist Oregon State Oregon State University
Template:Flaglist Pennsylvania State Pennsylvania State University
Template:Flaglist Rhode Island State Rhode Island
Template:Flaglist South Carolina State South Carolina State University
Template:Flaglist South Dakota State South Dakota State University
Template:Flaglist Tennessee State Tennessee State University
Template:Flaglist Texas State Texas State University
Template:Flaglist Utah State Utah State University
Template:Flaglist Vermont State Vermont State University
Template:Flaglist Virginia State Virginia State University
Template:Flaglist Washington State Washington State (disambiguation)
Template:Flaglist West Virginia State West Virginia State University
Template:Flaglist Wisconsin State Wisconsin State College of Milwaukee
Template:Flaglist Wyoming State Wyoming

36 [[State State]] are short name primary-topic redirects to [[State State University]], not incomplete names.

One (Wisconsin State) also redirects to an educational institution, albeit not one named "State University" – Wisconsin State College of Milwaukee.

12 are either {{R from more specific name}} or {{R from longer name}} redirects to the article about that state, or red links which would likely be the same, if created.

One (Washington State) is a disambiguation, with no primary topic between Washington State University and Washington (state). – wbm1058 (talk) 11:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC) amended 15:11, 25 September 2025 (UTC)Reply